AMFA is still better off because it is striking, ... The airline is really having trouble operating. From what we know, Northwest is really struggling.

Conditions are not ideal. Water capacity is especially difficult as demand has exceeded supply so we're having trouble pumping enough to meet everyone's needs. There's an urgent need to get these people located elsewhere.

Publicly, Northwest has to maintain the impression that operations are normal and that AMFA members are no longer needed, ... underway and proceeding smoothly.

I don't know that much about them other than the fact that they gave us a lot of trouble last year over at their yard.

People are afraid because I'm candid. They're always worried I'm going to get into trouble.

I asked them if it wasn't too much trouble, if I wasn't being too pushy, if they could execute what we were trying to do. And if it didn't make them too angry, if they also wanted to play some defense on the other end, that would be great.