Always keep yourself engaged, in theater, in whatever job you can get.

Never stand still. Only stand still enough to learn, and once you stop learning in that stance, move off. Always keep yourself engaged, in theater, in whatever job you can get. If you can't get an acting job, then go backstage. Or take tickets. But be around actors because that is where you will primarily learn.

If you can't get an acting job, then go backstage. Or take tickets.

My first job was with an auto plant, Kansas City - they treated you like slaves. From there I went back to Chicago, worked in steel mills, drove a cab, stuff like that.

You don't work with Cloris Leachman, you experience her.

I'm not sought after. I never get enough work. It's the history of my career. There just isn't anything to turn down, let me put it that way.