At least it happened for a good reason. When hardcore was smaller, that club didn't want anything to do with it. But now that you can have a show there and make money off of it, they're all about it. Back then they didn't accept the fact of what goes along with having a hardcore show.

We believe that spying on American citizens for no good reason is fundamentally un-American, that it's not the place of the government or the best use of resources to spy on its own citizens and we want it to stop. We want the spies in our government to pack their bags, close up their notebooks, take their cameras home and not engage in the spying anymore.

You can't reason with them.

There's every reason to believe he's doing the same thing he's charged with. We intend to find him. We're looking. It's only a matter of time.

For some reason the other two fell behind.

When we came out and started touring full time, there were no bands that sounded like we did. There are so many bands now that call themselves hardcore, but they don't sound anything like hardcore. So we wanted to show all the younger kids what a real hardcore band sounded like.