Biological age, I think because I've been taking care of myself for so long I know not just my reproductive organs but my heart, you know, are much younger than - than what I am.

I'm so grateful for the marriages that I have had. I wouldn't be who I am today if I hadn't had those.

You know, there's chronological age, there's biological age, and there's psychological age. Chronological age, there's nothing you can do about, which is I'm 52. You set that number aside.

Took us a great amount of strength to get them into the world, and for them to be in the world. I think that their little spirits, you know, just said, well, we're going to be there. So it makes it very special because of it.

I think because we could do it biologically and have our own child we decided to try this.

You know, I think I am faintly spiritual.