Bob is one of the most astute businesspeople I know,

I had been on the road for a long time and was not really getting anywhere. Bob Johnston, a friend of mine, had taken over Columbia in Nashville. He asked me if I wanted to come down. I did -- thank God I did.

When somebody like Leonard Cohen or Bob Dylan would come to town, I would do a session. I did a few country sessions, but not a lot. I played with Marty Robbins. When Bob [Johnston] had somebody that he felt that I fit in with, he'd give me a call.

He's very astute, knows what's going on. Sometimes I just want to say, ?Go get in there,' but I can't. And he feels the same way. It's frustrating.

Very good. You're very astute.

They're going to have to get a coach as good as Bob Huggins, and that's not easy to find. But if they can attract someone of the caliber of Bob Huggins, they can certainly continue.