But if you brought the lenses away from the top of the surface, you lost the image. They were not a practical way to find tiny early changes.

You would sort out people at higher risk and lower risk, and then maybe don't have to examine those at low risk as much. You will have a natural (method) of sorting out people for prevention, rather than for treatment.

Most of these early changes probably don't go anywhere. But we are looking for ways to differentiate between good apples and bad apples.

We should get that down to one pill by the end of the year. It's very impressive.

There is nothing new about turning science into politics. This has been going on for some time in this administration.

This is the way we're going for patients with HIV (who are) starting therapy for the first time. It's becoming very easy and safe and effective.