Chevron used the Nigerian military as their security force and that resulted in gross human rights violations.

Human rights is new for the military. They usually see human rights as a scapegoat, an instrument used by certain interests.

The issue of human rights is a national security issue for us and while we have lots of issues to address with North Korea and we have lots of issues to address with China, the prism through which we evaluate their conduct is very much a human rights prism.

We know that the Chinese authorities' views on Taiwan and human rights differ from ours,

In both cases, we want to see clearly what the human rights situation there looks like and how come these incidents took place.

We can have a dialogue on equal basis on all the questions, all the issues -- including human rights,