Combined they could be extraordinary, but that doesn't [automatically] move them to the upper echelon. It puts them in the right path but not by default.

Mr. Gorbachev is certainly in the upper echelon of the speakers that you'd want to have.

Marvel is very quietly moving into the upper echelon of left tackles in the NFL.

Seton Hall has certainly shown that they're moving toward the upper echelon of our league because of how well they've played on the road.

Traditional search engines are good at searching what's on the Web.

Microsoft and Yahoo say they are doing this to give consumers what they want, but I think if you ask consumers they would say they want interoperability all the way [across the two services].