communication, consultation, and cooperation, in the name of conservation.

There's a lack of communication and cooperation that is essential to the operation. There are specific components of the grant where there is no resolution.

Silo walls between business units that impede cooperation and communication need to come down,

The developers, if they decide to move a tortoise, have to pay the long-term costs for enhancing the areas that take care of the tortoise, and it gives us the opportunity to manage an area that is going to be protected.

I think that our cooperative conservation approaches get people to sit down and grapple with problem solving.

We also know that China and India, as their economies ramp up, are using more and more energy.