Eighty-seven percent of flounder mortality is due to by-catch.

We've seen a lack of cold weather during the winters.

A lot of fishermen are telling us they like things the way they are. They aren't pushing for the change. It's part of the conservation ethic that coastal fishermen have developed.

They are a neat resource. But we could lose them all in a very short time if we get a freeze.

We've been asked to look at limits on gray snapper, but we're not so inclined to do that. (Gray snapper) are very limited by temperature; a cold winter will eventually knock them back.

The much greater problem in avian flu compared to SARS is the high mortality, in particular the high mortality amongst children. The family will have dropped off their child and the next time they see him, he will be dying -- can you imagine the effect that will have on staff morale in your unit?