Ever since the tragedy, we've been reminiscing. That's all we have - the good times.

He knew everybody and if he didn't know somebody, he'd see if he didn't know somebody in that family.

He would always drive. They always traveled together to visit family and family members.

The tragedy is that Dell didn't win it - we lost it,

This was a tragedy that was avoidable.

It's kind of like Greek tragedy,