Few major public broadcasters around the world still maintain substantial in-house design capacity. Even BBC London stopped doing so some time ago.

We've had this tremendous benefit of in-house design for a long time, and people get used to it. The designers are good at what they do, but it's something we can't afford, so we'll have to do what everyone else does and go to the street.

There are all kinds of broadcasters in North America and the world, who do lots and lots of production, who do not have in-house design and scenic-build capability.

We design for activity as much for space.

This is where we have the design and development of the best submarines in the world, ... That is what was most at risk with this center of excellence.

It's good to collaborate between Germany and Brazil on design. You can have people in many locations.