He was forthcoming without being asked. He could anticipate if someone needed something.

I played tough and consistent and when I needed to serve well I did that too.

He was asking all these questions, wanting to know what the deformity was. I asked him why he needed to know that and he told me that any time there was a birth defect or a deformity they had to know all about it because it had to be reported. But they did not report it.

I felt kind of powerless. What can I possibly do? And so I just asked, 'What is needed?' And one of the main things, that was needed was access to medication so that they can save the children.

I never asked for a transcript, ... I hired him in a job where I didn't think he needed (a degree). His work experience was enough. And then with his job performance I gave him some responsibilities of and the title of chief administrative officer. . . . His educational background was never a big deal for me.

They had decided that Dan needed to be sharpened-up I think,