He won the two mile that year. That year he was the runner to beat in the state of Kansas. We were the only two that separated from the pack.

It'd be great to play Ohio State again. They beat us last year and knocked us out.

We haven't beaten Bedford since 2001, the year we both won state. If we would have wrestled a little smarter, we might have gotten them today. The opportunities were there, but we didn't capitalize and Bedford did. I've got to give them credit. They pulled out the wins in key situations.

We played in Maui and beat Kansas, lost to Michigan State in overtime and lost to Connecticut. That's not quite like losing to Sisters of the Poor. If you want to be ranked, you really need to play those kinds of teams. But if you want to be recognized in the RPI, you need to play the good teams. So that's been a little bit of our story.

The blue-chippers wouldn't even talk to Kansas State,

If you're playing for the Kansas City Royals, ... about all you can do is beat your head against the wall.