He would be in our meetings, then run out to take batting practice. Even if he couldn't go out on the (football) field, he would try to come see us and he would come in on his own time and study film.

So we had meetings and wrote essays, and then we each read them out aloud. We wanted practice to be not so serious.

The idea there is to actually bring in cameras to go behind the scenes in some key decision-making meetings and product reviews.

I've been attending board meetings for about two years. (Financial management) is lot better now than it was when I first started going. The audit report this year showed, I think, $1.7 million is the amount in reserves. That's better than it's been in a while.

We encourage people to develop their own proposals, handle jobs and meetings, be flexible and independent. It's been a nice formula for growth.

These meetings may be at a church, but they are not religious meetings. They are anti-casino meetings. We wanted to get active right off the bat with this issue.