He's brought a lot more individual toughness. He's rubbed off on the other guys. He's a No. 1 defensive stopper. There aren't too many guys that take so much pride in their defense.

He can score offensively, but No. 1 he's a defensive stopper. You can stick him on 1s, 2s, 3s and some 4s and say, 'OK, let's go to work.' That overshadows his offensive game. Once he gets a defender going to the basket, he's tough to guard. And he can post up against some and create mismatches because he's so strong.

I'm a defensive stopper. That's what I live for.

We're not going to be that team that's a defensive stopper,

There is no Shaq-stopper,

Terry was huge. He's a tremendous defensive stopper.