I didn't have a particularly good year for Jack. I held out that spring and missed most of spring training, and it cost me. I don't think Jack was totally enthralled with my performance. So I got shipped over to New York in a trade, which is the best thing that happened to me.

He's an intelligent guy. He's very good with mechanics. He's particularly good with putting together game plans on how to pitch the opposition -- utilizing his pitchers' strengths more than opposing hitters' weaknesses, which is a good way to go about it.

Good ballgame, what can I say?

We'll probably shut him down for the year, ... If he can't pitch in Cleveland, we'll shut him down. It's not a serious thing.

I think they all have good stuff, ... and stuff wins up here.

Let's see if he finishes on a good note. With the days off that we have and with the way we've watched our pitchers' pitch counts all year, I don't know how much of an opportunity he's going to get as far as starting is concerned. He'll get some work out of the bullpen. Or if we have an injury, he'll be the guy we put in there.