I got busy with a family, actually started in college, and then the pros and I kept meaning to get my degree and finally, I got the last 12 hours, with my last class this summer,

It took a while once we started recording ('In Your Honor') for us to really know if we were actually going to go through with it and actually make a double record with the acoustic stuff. It was a risk, sure, but when we were done recording, we felt pretty strongly that we'd made a great record.

When I first started, my shots kept going right and I thought, well, this isn't that fun. But the more you practice, the better your accuracy and the farther you can throw. Then you start to get a good feeling, the more good shots you can make, and then it's got a hold of you.

Two kids, a house and bills, you know,

I'm helping coach the offensive line at Lincoln North Star,

Getting the degree was important and something I had put off a long, long time,