I have no financial relationship with the firm. I'm not a lobbyist.

But there's no point in saving something that we're not going to have a part of.

The bottom line I got out of this is that unless you were a lobbyist, they did not want you to participate.

I'm not going to be a lobbyist, but an educator. You just stop doing something to do something else.

There wasn't no sissies around here,

I'm a lobbyist, and I have no interest in shutting down lobbying.