I injected him probably twice. But it wasn't like-I mean we would just walk in and-a lot of times they were pill form. A lot of times, you know, you would just-a quick injection of whatever and that's it.

Evidence of that was that he not only injected himself, he also injected someone that he loved very much.

I had already developed inherited back problems. I had degenerative disk disease, a form of scoliosis, arthritis. And I truly believe that if it weren't for the use of steroids - I'm not saying steroids is for everyone, but in my case in general, if I have not used steroids, I mean, physically right now I'd probably be a wreck.

An athlete-an athlete may prepare his needle and may ask another athlete to inject him quickly. And that's the way it works.

We spoke about it quite in depth. And-you know when I op-when-when I rejoined the team back in '97, we'd be working out-talking about it. You know we'd go into clubhouses and do steroids. Bottom line.

He is incredible. No one can even stand in his shoes - not Babe Ruth, not anyone. He's in a league of his own.