I like raconteurs; I like conversation. I liked the 'Tonight Show' when it was 90 minutes, I like when people aren't plugging things per se, and they're just in the moment being interesting.

It's really not that hard. If I do a Tonight Show, it's six or seven minutes. If I do a concert, it's 90 minutes. If I do an interview, that's 15 minutes. So by the end of the day I've done three hours worth of work.

People don't know this, but early in your career, you don't just glide on to The Tonight Show.

You don't get as invested in someone in 90 minutes as you do over 13 hours of television show.

My first appearance as a guest on The Tonight Show was in '81.

Josh Shipp's minutes tonight were critical. He was spectacular.