I remember distinctly telling my father-in-law, barring a miracle, we're going to have to terminate the pregnancy. Her health has to come first.

I distinctly remember him saying, 'Do you kids want to ride over to Tulsa with me?' ... And we all piled in the Winnie Mae and went to Tulsa and back.

The law says no sooner than April 28 and no later than May 2.

I remember quite distinctly her coming to me quite agitated, emotionally distressed, and at that point confided to me that she had indeed been beaten by her husband and that she had decided to leave the marriage.

I remember telling him if you're going to move funds around you better see if it was done in the past to see if (former treasurer Ron Graves) had done it, ... But it's just not something I would do for Ron or Bill, to authorize the use of funds.

Children are holy angels.