I remember playing Charlie way back when he was at Steel Valley,

I remember when the palm trees were short and Tomorrowland was modern.

We've never beaten Valley in the tournament, We've always lost to them even when I was playing. We've probably played them about six times and always lost. Same as Hyde — we've never beaten them, either. This was a long time coming.

It kind of upset me to see it again hanging in the hallway, but when you win it, you can do that. I'm glad they got fined by their team, but I'm not big on bulletin-board stuff. If you need a bulletin board to get you going for Sunday, then you need to get a new line of business.

We've shown we can compete. But when you're playing uphill, its that much more difficult.

I remember him playing Andy Caddick at Bath, when there was a bit of a ridge,