I remember the guys, how we lived at the station.

I never lived in an abandoned railroad station.

I've lived places these guys can't defecate in.

The station that's up there is like a house with no furniture. It's ready to be lived in, but it doesn't have the things you need day-to-day.

I don't think it's a fad. Those who lived without it think, 'Why do we need it?' But I remember when T-shirts were white. People want to make a statement. And ring tones offer that. I think we'll see growth. You hear complaints from record labels about problems in the digital age, but this is a real net positive.

I grew up with a lot of these guys, ... I remember Darren and Darren remembers me, but since then I've probably gotten a few more gray hairs and he's probably gotten a few Super Bowl rings.