I think a good pastor is somebody who is honest and humble and has a really caring heart.

I think that there are cancers of the body, but I think they are what I would call cancer of the emotional system, too. These are the kind of diseases or illnesses or sicknesses of the emotional system that are as incurable as cancer.

But I think it's intoxicating when somebody is so unapologetically who they are.

I think people know that I've got a good heart.

I think it matters whether someone has a good heart.

I get asked, 'What do you miss most about being a pastor?' I think it's the intimacy, the incredible gift of intimacy. You go through death with somebody, with their families, and there's an intimacy that comes through that that is just incomparable.