I think the fact is that Newport on the Levee was about four, five, six years ahead of its time.

At that time, it was deemed by the City Attorney's Office and the auditor to be a fully legal and acceptable form of accounting. I certainly thought it was an accepted use in the '90s, and in widespread practice among the cities in the state.

We're hoping to reshape the center and get this thing going.

I've done all of them except for Oprah. My shoes were on Oprah but they ran out of time so I wasn't on. I left my shoes in Chicago so they could put them on the show.

He persuaded me,

Baseball is what we were, and football is what we have become