I thought it was a fad. I have thought that for three or four years. But it just seems to keep growing and growing and growing.

We've been producing those since at least 1969.

It felt like a fad for 10 years, but a fad doesn't go on for 10 years. People want something new, something different from their neighbor.

We keep thinking these designer dogs are just a fad, but year after year goes by, and they're still popular.

We really did a good job on limiting our turnovers, which we thought would be a key, but they're big and strong and they really beat us on the boards. They just wore us down the last 10, 12 minutes. They got a lot of easy baskets.

They're deeper than we thought, too. Arnold, boy, he's a load down there.