I tried on the restart, got on the outside of him, but then he jumped off the corner and got away from us.

I know my team believes that. I believe that. We knew we would round the corner eventually and thankfully we've done it earlier in the Chase rather than as late in the Chase as we did last year.

There was no way I could let Mark Martin get outside of me on that restart.

There was no way I could let Mark Martin get outside of me on that restart. My truck was so loose when somebody was out there. When he went inside, I said, 'Have at it.' That was what we needed.

I tried to throw it on the corner. He could have easily popped it up.

They tried to corner me before I left and make me tell them. Jonathan Bender tried to give me some ideas. But he's 7 feet tall. A lot of the stuff he can do, I can't.