I was a dog groomer. I delivered radiators; I was a photography producer. I typed classified ads for many years. It was my longest term job - years of typing classified ads while I was in bands.

The advice I like to give to drummers is that there's no right or wrong way of playing the drums. I think the drumming community can be very antiquated and very stuck in the past of, like, this Neil Peart style, technical Guitar Center drum video kind of approach. That you need to have played for 15 years before you ever do anything worthwhile.

'Supernatural' has delivered in a huge way for us, ... We expect the show to be a long-term player at The WB.

It's a job that's never started that takes the longest to finish.

It's the job that's never started takes longest to finish.

I was with PolyGram; that was the big label that I was with for the longest, like 12 years.