I was a grad student at UC Berkeley when I bought my Apple II and it suddenly because a lot more interesting than school.

I started working at Apple about 18 months after I bought my Apple II.

I knew the Apple II was great when I bought it, but as I dug into the details it just completely blew me away the creative artistic approach that the designers had taken.

I left Apple in April of 1984, pretty soon after the introduction of the Mac.

The Apple II was not designed like an ordinary product. It used crazy tricks everywhere.

In fact when I first got my Apple II the first thing I did was turn it on and off, on and off, just because I had the power to do so, which I'd never had on a computer before.