I was very upset by that.

They're a fixture on that land.

The new processors, these workstations -- HP has built a configuration that can provide the power and cooling needed to run these components. In the past we'd have to run these very large rack systems that we'd only be able to run from a data center.

Within seconds of powering [the servers] up, they were processing an image,

Are we going to be able to hand out voting guides? Probably not with the same impact - not with the same effect. Because we can sit in the church and have Republicans and Democrats and independents who believe that basically we're all trying to work for a better world and a more just world - and we can have conversations about this. And we do that all the time in our more progressive churches.

A lot of things have not been articulated probably as well as they should have been - about who we are and what we are - as a result of that cultural understanding.