I've had big record label presidents look me in the face and say, 'Your music sucks, you don't know who you are, your music is all over the place, and we don't know how to market this stuff. Pick a lane and come back to us.'

We have meetings with our record label to tell them how to market us.

There are no record companies in Waikiki.

After we wrote The Wreckoning, our record label did listen.

I hate how I've had the mantle set on my shoulders as being against the record label. We've had some issues, but that is the nature of business.

The second record didn't sell as well and I think if we were on a big label, we might have been passed up on for the third, but they're a smaller label and the owner (Steve Gottlieb) likes us. So I think we deserve that chance with the first record doing so well.