I've made money by just trying to do world-class science. That's the goal that we're setting at Celera. If we do world-class science and create new medicine paradigms, the money will more than follow at a corporate level and at a personal level.

Sometimes, on a personal level, I wince.

On the personal level, the people that follow you on Twitter are always nice to hear from.

On a personal level, I've known Jon since his days back in the '80s as a staff member of the ACC. He's a guy who listens, processes information and then, I think, makes very good judgments in terms of the things we may be discussing at a particular point in time.

Sometimes, on a personal level, I wince,

Politically there were failures. And also on the personal level, there were tremendous failures.