If they come to a stalemate, where CMS and EPA can't decide and it's been a couple of years, we'd say (to CMS) 'Move your fence back to the lake,' and we'll let the public back in. But if they keep moving forward, we'll continue working with them.

I expected a lengthy shutdown, a couple of years.

The city's position is that we've come to a stalemate and that we should go to mediation,

Well, I would - if they realized that we - again if - if we led them back to that stalemate only because our retaliatory power, our seconds, or strike at them after our first strike, would be so destructive they they couldn't afford it, that would ho

What is the alternative? ... There is no alternative. The only alternative you can give is stalemate.

We would have liked to have got a lead going back to Waterhouse, but a happy stalemate. we have all to play for in the next round.