If you like a pitchers' duel, that certainly was one. Both guys were great. That's why Santana is an All-Star.

If it takes 10 pitchers, then let's do it.

We were worn out at the end of the year because we had to run so many guys out there every day. Our [lack of] depth was such that even one injury was a significant blow. With what we have now, not only in terms of numbers but versatility, we should be able to give guys the rest that they need to keep everyone sharp and fresh and feeling like they're part of the deal.

I wasn't throwing them out there. The guys want to win. When you don't win, some guys throw things. That's fine. You call it frustration, other people say you want to see a little fire. You saw a little fire coming out of the dugout when the game was over.

I had a lot of maintenance my first year because we had six outfielders, so there were three guys every day who were pissed off because they weren't in the lineup. Last year we started with three first baseman and there was maintenance there. They were all veteran guys. This year we haven't had that.

We ran into a buzz saw here. They're a very good team. They certainly came out swinging the bats, and they went right to our strength, the starting pitching.