I'm confident we're doing a good job down here. We'll get through this. We'll see what occurred, investigate, and take appropriate action once we know what the findings are.

In fact, his constant mantra is he doesn't want anybody doing anything that's immoral, illegal or unethical.

His organization was doing a good job, so you assume that was partly due to him. What he was doing on his personal time, one never knows.

We call this a fine mess of squirrels.

Joel urged that I consider this, this year, ... We talked, and I asked him about the range of things that you think are important, and what the governor is going to run with. One thing led to another, and we finally concluded that this is something that makes sense.

As far as I'm concerned, the Legal Services Corp. (which funds CRLA) had been the cutting edge of the left in America, of liberals in America, to change our society in their image and at a cost to the taxpayer,