In my thirties, I felt I had hold of one of the reins some of the time.

When I was in my twenties, it felt like I was riding wild horses, and I was hoping I didn't go over a cliff.

They are in it to make money, period, ... And they are looking at their earnings at the end of a fiscal year. You, on the other hand, are the total opposite of that. You are trying to express yourself, your deepest stuff. The two really don't go together when you think about it.

Basically what we did -- I wrote poetry, he took it home and came back the next day with music to it, ... It was that simple. It took us three weeks' time to do the whole CD.

We are so similar in many ways, in that we are both so eclectic, ... And we love so many genres of music and we love to just mix stuff up.

To me, this degree was an acknowledgment of my work in music.