In the 1980s, things became much more commercially oriented.

They became tv oriented, and tv became a medium where you did a whole lot more with a whole lot less, and you did it faster.

I'm very goal oriented.

The significance of these firings is that we can now take selected ST Kinetics commercially available, off the shelf warheads and combine them with our own stacked munitions technology to provide an expanding suite of explosive and less than lethal munitions. The ability to use ST Kinetics' off the shelf warheads is a major commercial step for the company. It positions us to demonstrate a range of selectable munitions in our integrated weapon systems to defense customers. We value ST Kinetics' support in achieving this outcome, and plan to utilize this range of munitions in a number of existing and planned weapon system projects. ST Kinetics' munitions are very much a key element in many of our future projects.

I think their feelings were that a deal's a deal. But I think they said they would think about it.

Having four or five institutions drop out and then have two new ones step in is not necessarily the answer.