It has been extremely difficult working with the developers in that area; the idea is to simplify the process.

What we really tried to do is just simplify everything, both in the field club area and on the promenade level, improve circulation around the promenade level but also give people more of an opportunity to take advantage of taking in the views outside and inside the park.

I'm new to the area. It kind of makes it difficult to find your way around.

If someone comes up with a super-hot idea, we'll have a bunch of researchers and developers who can take those ideas, get them prototyped and see if there's a real, healthy business there.

It was getting very, very dark out there and it made that putt extremely difficult,

The outlook for steel is still extremely difficult.