It is a growing process. You can't just like beer. You have to start somewhere and learn the different flavors.

Careers are like roller coasters. You go up, you go down, and you spin yourself around.

Everybody feels up sometimes, they feel down sometimes, sometimes they feel sideways, sometimes they feel weird. And the beauty of music is you can express all those different feelings in all the different songs you write. And hopefully, people can identify with those.

'Anthem' was the record that almost didn't get made for a completely different reason than 'Underneath.'

People often ask us if we had direct influences. Honestly, just a lot of different music - not necessarily individual people. We listen to anything from Bob Dylan to Massive Attack to Aerosmith to En Vogue. We very much enjoy all that music.

We pushed our first record, 'Boomerang,' to different labels, but it was hard for them to see though the 'white guys singing R&B' thing.