It really depends on the festival ? what programs are offered, how many people attend.

I was a little aggravated over that.

I love Akron's event. There's no doubt that they've used a strategic approach to what the event stands for: community, arts, celebration and the New Year. When all the components are running full tilt, it's a successful event.

A lot of First Nights suffered. It was a very tough time for everyone.

There are a lot of people who are tremendously overextended and we're now getting down to a level to where these margin calls are massive. The calls are going out right now.

We've worked with (city) staff to get here. ... Delaware's a bigger place than just the people here. To say the community doesn't want the store, we don't feel is accurate.