It used to be, some researcher in Florida had 60 samples in his freezer, then another guy in Utah had some in his. Now we're talking about a massive, massive scale.

We too have a fridge and even a freezer.

If you define MVP, he's the guy,

Smithsonian researcher Linda Perry's analysis of starch grains extracted from sediment samples and stone tools discovered at the site revealed two kinds of corn that had been ground into flour. No one has found a record of either from anywhere near this time for this part of Peru. At this early time period, agricultural hadn't been demonstrated in the highlands of Peru, Bolivia or Chile.

It was going so fast. I have a piece of it in my freezer.

I could see a broader mobilization where people start saying, 'No, you can't take my tissues. All I can say is, we better deal with the problems now instead of waiting until that happens.