It was a different challenge for us.

It's like a bedtime story for adults.

He told me I was the sixth person to come to him with the idea.

The first year was a challenge because only a few of us had ever seen a dance line before. We were very green. We took 17th place out of 17 teams the first year.

The virus is going to spread in our own native birds and that's the challenge ahead of us.

It's just been a real challenge for us to try to find ways of getting these guys out. It's been tough work. It's been physically and mentally taxing.