It was a gradual process. And we worked hard because we believed in the band.

We have some ideas about a new demo. But the tour is ready, and we're geared up.

We're looking forward to it because we can play longer. I believe we're ready to do what we have been wanting to do for a long time. Take control of our career.

Page was really hands-on with us. He would be listening to what we were playing and then have us listen to other music to get us inspired. He put in a Stevie Wonder tape and we were like, 'What does this have to do with us?' But after we listened to it for a while, we began to see how things could come together in harmonies and rhythm.

He clearly still harbors a very personal grudge from the December negotiations. And that doesn't augur well for the near future.

Kiss is a Fourth of July fireworks show with a backbeat.