It was a little payback for his brother beating me for third and fourth (last year).

The thing with Pugh is you're always in the match. Every time he lets you up you get a point, a takedown is only worth two, so he's only getting one point every time. I knew to not get frustrated if I got down in points.

It's good motivation to work harder in the practice room. My conditioning needs a little work.

(Pugh) changed things up a little bit. He didn't take as many shots as I would have hoped. He wrestled me on the mat. I didn't think he could ride.

I've been watching tape on (Pugh) all year. I knew he would be my toughest competition.

I go to quite a few tournaments. Fargo is definitely the biggest thing I do in the summer.