It was great. It felt like we turned that corner. We had leads going into the fourth quarter and we weren't able to sustain them.

She started going after it in the fourth quarter. She played really well.

We'll know in the fourth quarter that it's been 555 times 4.

We've actually been at the low-end of the Street range for the fourth quarter ... (and) felt that we had to go even lower, so we did -- a nine percent across-the-board trimming here for the fourth quarter, ... The backlogs are still very significant, but the current environment is just not allowing deals to get done.

Then all of a sudden, in the fourth quarter the other team's back in it.

In the fourth quarter, the Spurs were just better.