It's a step. They were going to get the certificate someplace. That is just one less thing on the check list.

The traffic was much weaker than anyone was expecting. My guess is no one knows for sure how bad it was, including the company.

I didn't think there was an industry in worse shape than the airline industry -- but I have finally found one.

A lot of us have our own telescopes. One of the things we like to do is go out someplace dark and set up our telescopes and look at the sky. When we have a star party, you don't mind deserting your 'scope and going down the hill to see what someone else is looking at.

They're probably looking at what's happening with Northwest and Delta and probably realizing they have to get their contract cost structure down as well.

Operating two products under the same name has never worked. They've learned a lot from operating a low cost product and now in bankruptcy they can incorporate that into their main line product.