It's at least 15 years. It takes that long.

It was all grassroots, people's piggy banks and everything else.

We try to keep that perspective in mind.

Maybe the dharma will deepen in me. I feel like I'm having a brand new beginning. It's a nice celebration.

It will be a hut for healing, for solitary reflection. It's very sculptural. We love the starkness of it.

I'd rather we stay a community. That's what we see now, is the sustained commitment to spiritual practice from which all of our actions begin. That's harder than growing.