It's hard right now. You've got to grieve, but God's calling us to keep going.

He is a man of sense who does not grieve for what he has not, but rejoices in what he has.

It depicts how a person is in a cocoon state like the butterfly during his or her time of grieving, and after a length of time that is necessary for that person's grief, they come out of the grieving time a new and different person. Death causes life as it was before with the individual to completely end, and the survivor must decide to find a new normal or a new beginning or a new state.

I had a hard time calling Laurence Oliver 'Larry.'

The whole thing is hanging in limbo. It's hard to grieve when you don't know what happened.

We're going to play the song that we wrote for him. It's about Jared and the life he lived. We played it at his funeral. We played it at his burial.