It's just so hard sometimes to work out where people stand on these things. I mean, isn't the Pope a feminist?

After there are no more leaks, we will do interior work. And one of the first things we have to do is get those pigeons out.

They also work with kids who aren't necessarily expected to live into adulthood. Necessarily is an important word.

It's just so hard sometimes to work out where people stand on these things. I mean, isn't the Pope a feminist?

I think we're down below 2 percent here, to be honest. For available people, who can work and who have skills, we're facing a tremendous shortage.

We may want to go ahead and structure an organization for revitalization and transformation work, so that people know what is being done and can contribute if they'd like.